Sunday, April 4, 2010

Bargaining

Should I bargain at the street markets such as the Ladies and Night Market?





Does the same hold true when shopping at the LoHu in Shenzhen? We are planning on having a gown tailored in Shenzhen and I was wondering if it is normal to bargain the stated price?





Less than four weeks before we arrive.



Bargaining


You may bargain in street markets if you wish, and from memory in most of Lo Wu. It%26#39;s not compulsory however and as I keep saying, often you%26#39;re just arguing over pennies. However if you%26#39;re buying a big-ticket item of some sort you should always attempt to find their best price. Being a tourist, it probably won%26#39;t be the lowest they%26#39;re prepared to go, but it%26#39;s definitely worth it with things such as watches and jewellery. However I doubt if anyone is going to be insulted if you don%26#39;t, as some people seem to think. Or if they are, so what you%26#39;ll never see them again. Just have a quick look at etiquette, and don%26#39;t bargain if you don%26#39;t intend to buy, on the whole. Keep a smile on the face, keep it light.



Bargaining


Definitely bargain at the local street markets. The worst case is they will tell you no bargaining and then you can just walk away.





Somebody posted a video link a while ago and it showed a young girl bargaining at a local market. I think she got it down to half the price.




English speakers typically get quotes of 150%-200% of actual selling price at HK Ladies market, based on my own comparison. Your mileage may vary.




Bargin and bargin hard, in Hong Kong markets they dont tend to start out at ludicrous prices and I generally work on about 20% off (this is a guide line some products more, some less)



But in Shenzhen I generally work on paying around 30% of their first price. You will be ripped off big time if you dont haggle. I have been offered prices at 10 times the going rate. They expect you to haggle over the price.





The best thing to do is bargin for an item and have an idea how much you want to pay (keep it real low) if they let you walk away just keep walking you will see the same product within 10 feet, after a while you will get an idea of what the going prices are (for tourists anyway I doubt the locals are paying the same rate).



One thing dont get agressive, they are just making a living and if you haggle with a laugh and some theatrics (feigning a heart attack always seems to get a laugh and a cheaper counter offer)it makes for a fun day.





At LoHu start on the top floor and work your way down as the ground floor seems to be the more expensive.






I am a regular at LuoHu and I never haggle with my tailor. I want to have a long term relationship with her and I value the fact that she will mail me stuff (at no extra charge) or come in early to see me etc. Her prices are reasonable and her workmanship is good. I ask her for ';best price'; in the fabric market and I assume she gets some kickback when she takes me shopping for fabric.




Bargaining is expected in the Ladies Market in MONGKOK. I usually start at 50% of the vendor%26#39;s starting price and work from there.





Once you get close to what you want to pay, smile and close the deal.





Most of the vendors (to me) seem to have fun in the process.





Have fun!




I will start bargaining at 50% and then work my way up in price.




In all the markets my target to pay is uaually 50% of the asking price or a little over.



So I will usually start a bit lower, but will increase my bids by very small increments. It%26#39;s often worth going for a ';bulk discount'; if you want a couple of watches or shirts or whatever.



With tailors it%26#39;s usually normal to bargain (unless you have developed a long-term relationship with him/her) but the margins are less, so you should not try to negotiate silly prices. You can usually sense if your suggested price is way out of court.



As said above, do the bargaining with a smile - good humour usually gets a good result.




My smile shall be with me the entire time that I am bargaining.

Where to watch Super14 rugby in Tianjin?

Hi,





Just wondering whether there are any bars etc that show Super 14 rugby in Tianjin? Any advice much appreciated. Cheers

Li river cruise from Xingping to Yangdi - easy to do?

I read some forums about this section of Li River cruise that is supposed to be the most scenic route. How easy it is to get a boat or bamboo raft from Xingping? Also, how easy to get transportation back from Yangdi to Yangshuo? Thanks.



Li river cruise from Xingping to Yangdi - easy to do?


Have alook at this www.yangers you might find some info there



Li river cruise from Xingping to Yangdi - easy to do?


In yangers.com, they made it sound that it may not be possible to do it, depending on the situation/condition of the day. However, looks like many people actually did it, based on the foruns I read. That%26#39;s why I am a little confused.




To get the bus to Xingping go to the bus station and just say the name %26amp; they will put you on the right mini bus. They go backwards %26amp; forwards constantly. When you get off in Xingping there will be people hanging around at the bus stop %26amp; will offer to take you to the bamboo rafts. Just get one of them to take you to the raft - will only cost a few RMB. You can either walk down to the river or take a cart ride.





From what I can work out - Yangdi to Xingping: this trip on the river isn%26#39;t really ';official';. You have to get someone to orginise it for you but it can be done. You can catch the bus to Yangdi arrive there in the morning before all the tour boats come through.



I am booked in at the Rosewood Inn www.yangshuorosewoodinn.com and if you look on their website they have a runthrough of things they can arrange. If you get stuck for ideas maybe ask them.



Hope this helps,



Annie

Airport Bus to Citadines Ashley

Hi



Does the airport bus stops at or stops near Citadines Ashley?





Thanks.



Belinda



Airport Bus to Citadines Ashley


Airport bus A21 stops along Nathan Road, which is a couple of blocks from Ashley Road where Citadines is located. You should get off at stop no.14 (Middle Road), walk backwards and cross to the other side of Nathan Road at Peking Road. Follow Peking Road for 3 blocks and you will see Ashley Road. Should be about 10 minutes walk.



Airport Bus to Citadines Ashley


Hi Belinda, yes, if you take airport bus -A21(fare:-HKD33),alight at stop # 14,which is outside Imperial Hotel(on Nathan Road).





Then from Imperial Hotel:-





1). Head North,i.e. walking against flow of traffic towards Peking Road.Peking Road is across on the other side of the road,so you need to cross road.





2). Then once you are on Peking Road,continue straight,where you passed Lock Road first(on your right),then Hankow Road(also on your right);





3). After Hankow,the next road on your right is Ashley Road,so turn in here,and Citadines Ashley is further up from where you turned.





This walk from Imperial hotel will take around 10-15minutes,giving allowance for crossing Nathan Road onto Peking Road,and also navigating your self from the human traffic.




oppss... looks like it%26#39;s abit of walking. Since I have 4 adults + 1 child, might be more worth well to take a cab direct from the airport to Citadines instead of taking express train or airport bus?





From airport to citadines would cost around HKD280+?




Hi Belinda, HKD280 for the taxi from Airport to your hotel is more than sufficient-a good budgeted figure to work on. If traffic condition is good,am sure you will have change from this figure. Just remember,there is a surcharge of HKD5 for each piece of luggage placed in the car boot,and also HKD30 for the bridge fees.





Have a safe and pleasant trip and a great holiday in HK with your family.





Note:- HK taxi are able to take up to five(5) passengers.

Guangzhou to Xiamen

Hi there, is there an express bus from Guangzhou to Xiamen..and the trip time...or is there a better way...thanks



Guangzhou to Xiamen


Hi hankc888



Have a look at this site. It is a train timetable which I think would be quicker than bus. and you can get a sleeper which is a comfortable way to travel in China.



Guangzhou to Xiamen


Hi,



Taking by train k297 (19:08--08:48) from Guangzhou to Xiamen (850km)is the best way.




Doh! forgot to put the site in. Sorry.



bestofguangzhou.com/travel/鈥?/a>




Better way? For me flying would definitely be a better way but that depends on your travel style and budget....




Thank you all for the info....

Visa for one day visit to Shenzhen

My wife is a mad keen shopper and is anxious to do a day shopping trip to Shenzhen. We have been there a couple of times before, but last time we were in HK, (June 2008) we found that it was no longer possible to obtain a visa at the border. The alternative through CTS took 3 days, which we did not have.





Can anyone please tell us what is the current situation for Australian passport holders??





Thanks





Visa for one day visit to Shenzhen


Shenzhen visas at the border are allowed again. Australians pay 160Rmb (only rmb can be used).



Visa for one day visit to Shenzhen




One last question on this one, other than money, passport and flight itinerary, is there anything else you%26#39;ll need to obtain visa at lo wu into shenzhen at the borders?





Many thanks :)




You don%26#39;t need a flight itinerary (in fact MUST NOT have flight itinerary) as the visa is only valid for the Shenzhen SEZ and only for 5 days. No photos required.


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